Hello everyone,
Fede, shortly, Zelena Tranzicija agrees with the proposals.
Cheers Sasha
ned, 3. lis 2021. u 23:47 Federico Venturini venturini@inventati.org napisao je:
Hello everyone, my position is as follow:
- the call is open, that means that *each organisation have to share in
a open and public way their individual link to the google drive form for the collection of the applications.*
- I agree totally agree with Sasha regarding the unusual position of
Ataec and I can leave with the decisions that Ataec will make during the selection that they will make. *This means that each organisation will freely decided through an internal process of selection **the participants among the submissions received.* Remembering that "particular attention will be given to ensure gender balance and the participation of participants with fewer opportunities, with economic/geographical obstacles or refugees status. Our target group are also young people in precarious and vulnerable situations." (p.80 of the application)
Could we all agree on these 2 points?
Cheers
Federico On 27/09/2021 09:25, Saša Petrović wrote:
Hey dear people,
I was informed in details by Zelena Tranzicija members about this delicate issue.
Victoria, your arguments sound quite reasonable and they make sense. But, I will try to give my perspective on this matter
In terms of the open call related to Deep-T project, and generally, the scope and logic of the Erasmus as an educational programme, open calls are basically open to everyone. The criteria for selecting participants in the open call in the Erasmus project can be: *geographical and economic obstacles, people with disabilities and marginalised groups such as migrants and minorities. In Deep-T application, we have selected that we will comply with the criteria of economic and geographical obstacles. *
As organizations handling the open call for our countries in the project, we can apply our organisational criterias in selection of the participants. But, I have never seen that some organization applies restrictive criteria, such as, that if you are an artistic organization, you will "open" the open call only to artists in your country. At least, when we are talking in terms of the Erasmus programme logic. Honestly, this is also far away from the logic of our partnership which should be based on openness, solidarity, and horizontal decision making. So, basically, this is a matter of values and principles we all apply in our work.
On the other hand, generally, for the sake of the successful project implementation, and for the sake of continuation of friendly and supporting cooperation among us further on the project,* we from Zelena Tranzicija will respect Attaec decision to handle the open call according to Attaec criterias and preferences*. We find that it is more important to successfully implement the Deep-T project to the end, in order to avoid the project failure and regarding to it, all the problems that we will cause, above all to the Italian team, and than to all of us.
Finally, I hope that we can communicate this matter as friends and above all, as the professionals working together in a supporting atmosphere
Cheers Sasha
pet, 24. ruj 2021. u 12:33 info@ataec.com napisao je:
Hey everybody! Wishing you a pleasant day and rest of the week!
So I added and shared part of the minutes took on Sunday.
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For those who were not there, Sunday last time. There was a situation:
Federico asked Ataec to open the call to all sorts of participants, beyond our networks (please correct if need it).
Me, Victoria as a representative body of the organization reject the possibility and here I shared the whys:
- Ataec is an organization working with the objectives and networks of
Cultural Diversity (origin, languages and cultural practices), Arts, and Ecosocial projects (all sorts of social and ecosystems benefit, community & climate actions). We consider our network is already open enough and we cannot amplify our capacity of call to another collectives; because it is not our field of work.
- The collective representative and member of Ataec, that came to the
A1 'Hip Hop Project In' works with youth at risk, intrinsically working with marginalized groups. And who will hope-fully be part of the project team in A2.
- In page 49 of the application EU K1 Deep-T; it is clearly explained
that 'Every partner- group will ensure the participation in the seminars of five people from their region, freely decided throught an internal process of selection'.
Hope this makes it clear and we can succesfully develop A2.
Our best regards,
El 2021-09-23 13:50, Federico Venturini escribió:
Hello everyone,
who was taking the minutes of the meeting could please post here / on the google drive or send to me?
Sorry but I lost track of who take them. Cheers
Federico
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